tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4658087174373204867.post5321634058040510597..comments2023-10-30T08:53:06.784+01:00Comments on Valentin Rozman: 2011 - Zeitgeist Moving Forward - Movie reviewValentin Rozman ENhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17883435370803104725noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4658087174373204867.post-47793443978305599362012-01-19T18:01:40.964+01:002012-01-19T18:01:40.964+01:00Good review, very honest and straight forward. As ...Good review, very honest and straight forward. As yourself, I also cried in some parts and joined the movement after seen that. Fortunatelly, the senior members here are very rational people with no illusions of changing the world in a few years as many people who came to the following meeting. No civilization was made in a few years or even decades. It took them a few centuries and that's what's gonna take all these revolutionary movementes to change the world as we know it.<br /><br />Peace.<br /><br />Jerri<br />Porto Alegre, BrazilJerri Diashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13283632206610573245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4658087174373204867.post-26425853254458805142011-02-14T08:57:14.291+01:002011-02-14T08:57:14.291+01:00"I expected to hear about some new and practi..."I expected to hear about some new and practical solution about how to fix this world."<br /><br />I too felt this way, until I realised that the answer is intrinsic to the content.<br /><br />Collapse is inevitable, and Peter's advice is to be playing for the right team when it finally happens. That is, team science. More than anything Zeitgeist is a state of readiness for when things begin to change. Will you support the reestablishment of free market society, or a new scientifically government unified society?<br /><br />As for what can be done now, I think that too is obvious:<br />1. Show people the Zeitgeist movie etc.<br />2. Encourage friends and family to pursue careers and avenues of learning relevent to the future - i.e. science, engineering, research, medicine.<br />(as opposed to commerce, business, politics, economics, finance, etc.) 3. Engage in activities that generally disrupt the system - i.e. save more money than you spend, whenever possible, keep it in cash. Never click an advertising link, or respond on impulse to advertising material. etc. etc.<br />4. Refuse to identify with any race, culture, creed or religion.<br /><br />That sound alright? What do you reckon :DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4658087174373204867.post-81807097181909371712011-02-09T03:05:18.072+01:002011-02-09T03:05:18.072+01:00Don't you get it? It is already built-in, our ...Don't you get it? It is already built-in, our care for the environment. For global mind you perceive animals and plants under one name - nature. <br />Other thing that matters is - don't let your ego tricks you into who is behind everything thing. That is not important. The most important thing is how we will do the transition. It is obvious that perfect system of preservation must be regulated by computer, but controlled by us. There is no human group that can lead.<br />The only big thing that concerns me: is there gonna be global war or not... And honestly I was almost crying at the end because I was sad that such joy of life will be destroyed by reckless and distorted human nature...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4658087174373204867.post-85342947874805082252011-02-08T03:22:40.384+01:002011-02-08T03:22:40.384+01:00"human elitism end technological superiority&..."human elitism end technological superiority" is NOT the message or vision of the Zeitgeist Movement. TZM is based on equality and equilibrium with nature. As for the non-mention of plants and animals, it is a given throughout his films and lectures that our well-being is only as good as the quality of our environment. That includes plants and animals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4658087174373204867.post-43707049327819586162011-02-04T01:40:47.176+01:002011-02-04T01:40:47.176+01:00Good points. I have similar feelings about the mov...Good points. I have similar feelings about the movie, I thought it was a rather lengthly rehash of Addendum only with a greater number of interview subjects expanding on the same basic ideas. <br /><br />The title "moving forward" is somewhat misleading because (as you mentioned) there was absolutely nothing about a viable transition plan to Fresco's Venus Project vision. Having said that, these films have done a great job at pointing out many the inherent flaws in our current terrible system and has undoubtedly opened a lot of peoples eyes to the fact we could carry on civilization in much saner matter. <br /><br />I would love to see this "movement" expand out to take on practical transition solutions and incorporate input from a diversity of science and engineering perspectives, not just stick to Fresco's autocratic version of the future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4658087174373204867.post-8311323752981422582011-02-03T22:08:08.153+01:002011-02-03T22:08:08.153+01:00I think you should watch it again very carefully. ...I think you should watch it again very carefully. The Zeitgeist movement is about Love and acceptance towards all species including/especially plants and animals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4658087174373204867.post-41808379264513483792011-01-30T22:29:51.428+01:002011-01-30T22:29:51.428+01:00No plants and Animals were mentioned in the movie ...No plants and Animals were mentioned in the movie because plants and animals are do not have economy or monetary system, neither they do have banks and jobs or even politicians. They live the way they are supposed to live!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04399812429967202851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4658087174373204867.post-45417826236248221792011-01-28T16:19:45.059+01:002011-01-28T16:19:45.059+01:00one thing i forgot to respond to is where you say ...one thing i forgot to respond to is where you say we'll get rid of money and live happily ever after. peter joseph does not advocate that we all get rid of our money as the end of the film portrays, rather, he's saying that with a critical mass of people we can achieve many goals ie: if over 50% of us refuse to pay income taxes in the US they couldn't prosecute all of us, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4658087174373204867.post-51564821245388637632011-01-28T16:16:29.549+01:002011-01-28T16:16:29.549+01:00the film briefly talked about fish populations dur...the film briefly talked about fish populations during the global resource management part. also, everything in between cities would go back to nature. plant and animal life considerations are extremely important in the venus project if you research it further. secondly, the part about not forgiving people was also about not blaming them to begin with, rather, we need to understand what caused their criminal behavior in the first place. lastly, the transition to a resource based economy depends on all of us and can have many variables. the venus project would like to make a major motion picture and use the profits to build a test city to help educate people. there is no clear transition plan because the venus project is simply a goal to achieve, how we achieve it will be up to all of us. peace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4658087174373204867.post-85985002776867548632011-01-21T05:02:46.772+01:002011-01-21T05:02:46.772+01:00It sounds as if the film had a greater impact on y...It sounds as if the film had a greater impact on you than what you realize. And although it may not have moved forward as you say exactly the way you expected, the ideas presented became clearer to you. The point of me saying this is for YOU and ALL of US to do our part. But to do so, one must be clear. That is the point. As with most things, we need to be reminded over and over until it becomes second nature so much so that we take action albiet small steps toward not only changing the 'system' but our internal system which is what allows all what is going on to exist in the first place. Change usually comes slowly, particularly anything having to do with the establishment, however Zeitgeist is helping to reshape what we were indoctrinated into. Their point is to shine a light not only on the central issue that acts like a cancer in society, but also solutions. A grass roots movement (awareness) has begun. The greatest change has come about in this way. We change and the world changes, one by one. There's much talk about the problems in the world of hyped up news etc and we hear the same lame type of solutions but too little of it is substantial. It's just noise. This film (movement)identifies the cause of the cancer and that, my friend is something the establishment and media seem to conviently overlook. In short, it's a beginning. We all have a part to play. Best.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4658087174373204867.post-71923412878026160732011-01-20T20:50:44.850+01:002011-01-20T20:50:44.850+01:00Great review! I don't agree either with the is...Great review! I don't agree either with the isolation of man from the rest of the animal kingdom, or from life forms for that matter. This point which you bring was missing but, from what I know of the movement; they too are concern with giving life forms it's rightful place in the scheme.<br /><br />The movie is long and I heard the final edition is going to be longer and, it is hard to include everything there is to know about social, political, economical changes considering the attention span and the amount of information people can handle.<br /><br />Overall I think is was great for awakening the hunger for knowledge of people and disrupting the paradigm that this is the only way to do things.Marco Acerohttp://marcoacero.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4658087174373204867.post-28757490342191102312011-01-20T01:20:13.385+01:002011-01-20T01:20:13.385+01:00hello valentine,
i want to thank you for taking yo...hello valentine,<br />i want to thank you for taking your time to review zeitgeist moving forward,<br />i am posting this in reference to your last two points on your review as i can identify with you as far as the inability to share ideas with out getting emotionally attache, it take a grate amount of courage from you to recognize that, and i think your recognition is a sign of healing, i will take the time to review what you propose, and know that the zeitgeist movement is an evolving idea open to re orientation if proven other wise, so my biggest concern is how are we going to be able to learn to communicate, specially withing members that obviously care about the world they living in<br />PLEASE TAKE YOUR TIME TO SEE THIS VIDEO AS TI WILL EXPLAIN YOUR CONCERN OF ELITISM AND CORRUPTION,<br />http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3932487043163636261#Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4658087174373204867.post-33229828013384627752011-01-19T17:24:38.835+01:002011-01-19T17:24:38.835+01:00Zeitgeist is change to worstZeitgeist is change to worstAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4658087174373204867.post-54666357082271852672011-01-19T14:28:19.791+01:002011-01-19T14:28:19.791+01:00Good and onest review. It`s incredible how Zeitgei...Good and onest review. It`s incredible how Zeitgeist gained so many folowers in the beginning, though it is barely old materialistic religion proposing changing society into Technocracy (by violent act as a solution of transformation)<br />They are completely ignoring human spiritual abilyties and are praising to dead machines instead.. Zeitgeist movement spreads the most harmful ideology I have met. But they do it in the guise of very aesthetic prommise of the comfortable future (possible only if 95% of people die, so there is abundance of resources)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4658087174373204867.post-11503695344379553102011-01-17T06:50:01.881+01:002011-01-17T06:50:01.881+01:00thanks Valentin !thanks Valentin !C Copehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16606368308891831074noreply@blogger.com